WARLOCKS

Meek · Post by **Meek** » 03 Jul 2007, 16:39

Lateralus wrote:ok meek go 0/2 i have 2/2 again

okej papi!

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » 04 Jul 2007, 06:46

Meek wrote:
Lateralus wrote:ok meek go 0/2 i have 2/2 again
okej papi!

Would be best to just.. keep one type of stone all the time.
And if u wanted to change from one stone to another youd have to speak with the elders first ( fenz 1st, if not him me ) .

Doesnt matter at all for me since im respecking a few times per week atm :p

Fenz 2/2
Reinv 1/2 ( ? )
Meek 0/2
Lateralus 2/2 ( atm )

Versus · Post by **Versus** » 04 Jul 2007, 10:19

3 stones was nice on morogrim murloc zerg 3>

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » 04 Jul 2007, 10:22

Versus wrote:3 stones was nice on morogrim murloc zerg 3>

finally feedback from someone that used them all!!

<3

Skyly · Post by **Skyly** » 04 Jul 2007, 10:51

Skyly wrote:lock this thread.

get it? Lock.

lolz

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » 04 Jul 2007, 11:15

Skyly wrote:
Skyly wrote:lock this thread.

get it? Lock.

lolz

dont be fooled by this lock that ive got
im still im still richard on the block
i used to have a few purps now i have alot
i even hardly know where they came from

THE BRONX!!!

Skyly · Post by **Skyly** » 04 Jul 2007, 14:51

Lateralus wrote:
Skyly wrote:
Skyly wrote:lock this thread.

get it? Lock.

lolz
dont be fooled by this lock that ive got
im still im still richard on the block
i used to have a few purps now i have alot
i even hardly know where they came from

THE BRONX!!!

rofl

(nej jag rullar inte lateralus :s)

Kingeling · Post by **Kingeling** » 04 Jul 2007, 15:22

Lateralus wrote:
Would be best to just.. keep one type of stone all the time.
And if u wanted to change from one stone to another youd have to speak with the elders first ( fenz 1st, if not him me ) .

Doesnt matter at all for me since im respecking a few times per week atm :p

Fenz 2/2
Reinv 1/2 ( ? )
Meek 0/2
Lateralus 2/2 ( atm )

Sniff....sniff

(2/2)

Shataz · Post by **Shataz** » 04 Jul 2007, 17:18

yes i got 1/2 atm. and i wont specc out of it for a while since i got like 80g atm and i dont have very much playing time right now

Post by **Fenz** » 04 Jul 2007, 17:33

Do you use this add-on Late:

http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/6948/

?

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » 05 Jul 2007, 06:50

Shataz wrote:yes i got 1/2 atm. and i wont specc out of it for a while since i got like 80g atm and i dont have very much playing time right now

i know how you feel mate i only have 2600 atm and it sux everytime i respec tbh

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » 05 Jul 2007, 06:51

Fenz wrote:Do you use this add-on Late:

http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/6948/

?

no but a few teamies use it so im gonna

they had problem with moving the windowthingie last time i played with them so decided to wait u ntill they fixed it

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » 05 Jul 2007, 08:12

Was thinking since i always end up with felguard build in arena ( the only build that works very well imho

)

If you use felguard on bosses you can dish out just as much dps as anyone in top 5, or so ive noticed a few times at least. But how many bosses can you use him on effectively?

Karazhan

Attumen < yes
Moroes < yes
Maiden < mjaeh
Opera
- Little red riding hood < yes
- romeo and juliet < yes but prefer FH for spellock
- ? < yes
Curator < yes
Aran < yes
Illhoof < ?
Prince < ?
Nightbane < ?
Netherspite < ?

Gruuls Lair

High King Maulgar < yes
Gruul < nah

SSC

Hydross < yes
Lurker < no, maybe during adds
Mograin < yes

The Eye

Void Reaver < works but there are better ways

Magtheridon

Magtheridon < yes

Post by **Fenz** » 05 Jul 2007, 10:18

Aran = yes
All opera events = yes (but felhunter might be better on R&J

Other mobs in KZ will take a lot of micro management if you let him hi the boss but you can park him safe for the extra bonusses.

Voidreaver only when he gets heals, better to sac or use an imp (aggro IS an issue on VR).

Hydross, Morogrim = yes

Post by **Fenz** » 09 Jul 2007, 14:46

Demonology in raids:

from this thread:

http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=11799&page=23

This concludes my demonology testing, since we are soon on progress raids and our next boss on list is is Gurtogg Bloodboil. I personally think my build would be pretty good since it allows me to split damage with pet and 2/4 tier 5 bonus would keep pet up if I got a shadow priest. But having shadow priest for demonology here would require bringing three shadow priests for the raid. I will spec most likely to affliction which is by far best build for Gurtogg.

I'll compare damage on few bosses that make damage comparing easy with destruction, demonology and affliction and will post the results here after I can compare damage with same group/raid setup and builds.

Also I lack void star talisman which makes some bosses unplayable with felguard, but then again some bosses like naj'entus I always have to keep imp for raid anyway.

Remember that when I classify two bosses totally unplayable it doesn't mean, that you can't go there with the build. It means keeping felguard up seems impossible. Those fights you can always go imp duty and still do reasonably high damage with fully buffed imp. Here's summary of demonology raiding per boss (some being estimates):

Serpenshrine Cavern:

Hydross the Unstable, demonology works great.
Lurker from Below, demonology is totally unplayable here from my experience.
Tidewalker, demonology would be really good build here.
Karathress, demonology would be great build here.
Leotheras, demonology would be great build. Needs precision with whirlwind though.
Lady Vashj, demonology would be great build here.

The Eye:

Al'Ar, demonology loses to other builds, but is playable. Hard fight to play (void star talisman is must for this fight).
Void Reaver, demonology works great.
High Astromancer Solarian, demonology works great.
Kael'thas Sunstrider, demonology works great.

Moun Hyjal:

Rage Winterchill, demonology works great.
Anetheron, demonology works great.
Kaz'Rogal, demonology works great.
Azgalor, demonology damage compares to other warlock build damage, needs good pet control (void star talisman is must for this fight).
Archimonde, demonology damage compares to other warlock build damage, this fight I would classify as very hard, but doable with SP (void star talisman is must for this fight).

Black Temple:

High Warlord Naj'entus, demonology is totally unplayable here from my experience.
Supremus, demonology works great.
Shade of Akama, demonology works great.
Teron Gorefiend, demonology works great.

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On average it seems demonology damage is higher than other warlock build damage. There's some fights where you can offer being imp warlock and still have nice damage with buffed imp. Void Star Talisman is must have if you will to raid as with felguard and being able to use it in all elemental fights. Shadow Priest is must to keep pet up. For resistance fights, pet gains portion of your resistances, so those are totally doable with high resistances.

At the time of testing, Thooghun the idiot had 8320 HP fully raid buffed, which seemed to be enough for most cases, wouldn't mind some tier 6 parts though. Pet does very high damage and peaks up to 3k AP when all +damage stuff procs.

I think that sums it, I will personally change my play as demonology if we have raids where I can be demonology from start till end to train playing that build. But until I have void star I will not spec demonology permanently for raiding. One more sad itemization / talent problem that makes one build very hard to play without one item.