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Fenz, with that 70 spec you've got there, how would you distribute the points from 10-70?

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Improved corruption + lifetap first, them demonic embrace for the rest it should be personal preference.
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Played with the FG for about 5 min. With him I already have more spelldamage then without him. Gonna test tonight the difference between sta and dam gear for my total spelldamage.

Edit: Sta + int = best for the synergy in the tree. Killed a druid and a mage in a 2 vs me, think I had 80% life left (popped The Black Book tho 8) ) I love the Fel Guard (in a manly way ofcourse...geez...sicko's)
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Tier4

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(2) Set: Your fire damage spells have a chance to grant you 135 bonus shadow damage for 15 sec and your shadow damage spells have a chance to grant you 135 bonus fire damage for 15 sec.
(4) Set: Increases the duration of your Corruption and Immolate abilities by $ [sic] sec.



2set seems..kinda usless unless your destro
4set is really only a manasaver

kinda boring :(
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Gupim wrote:Tier4

Warlock:

(2) Set: Your fire damage spells have a chance to grant you 135 bonus shadow damage for 15 sec and your shadow damage spells have a chance to grant you 135 bonus fire damage for 15 sec.
(4) Set: Increases the duration of your Corruption and Immolate abilities by $ [sic] sec.



2set seems..kinda usless unless your destro
4set is really only a manasaver

kinda boring :(
Yeah rather would get 3 choices, some pet + crit chance f.i. on demo armor :)
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Fenz wrote:
Gupim wrote:Tier4

Warlock:

(2) Set: Your fire damage spells have a chance to grant you 135 bonus shadow damage for 15 sec and your shadow damage spells have a chance to grant you 135 bonus fire damage for 15 sec.
(4) Set: Increases the duration of your Corruption and Immolate abilities by $ [sic] sec.



2set seems..kinda usless unless your destro
4set is really only a manasaver

kinda boring :(
Yeah rather would get 3 choices, some pet + crit chance f.i. on demo armor :)
as i think now, tier sets are almost useless for me, when im going full affliction i will have no use for
a) crit
b) hit since its possible to spec hit and also one resisted spell is only global cooldown and mana wont a so big problem since you will have siphon life and drain life up so often

so its damage all the way...but i guess ill get the set for the looks ;)
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is that for all the sets?

shaman sets seemed to have different bonuses depending on what treee they were for.
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Gorlom wrote:is that for all the sets?

shaman sets seemed to have different bonuses depending on what treee they were for.
There is only 1 set.
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Gorlom wrote:is that for all the sets?

shaman sets seemed to have different bonuses depending on what treee they were for.
there is only one warlockset, shame really since its so different playstyles, affliction/desto focuses on killing enemies and demo focuses on boring the players away
i would like to se one set with stats, one with +damage and one with more crit
but i guess you cant have it all
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Gupim wrote:
Gorlom wrote:is that for all the sets?

shaman sets seemed to have different bonuses depending on what treee they were for.
there is only one warlockset, shame really since its so different playstyles, affliction/desto focuses on killing enemies and demo focuses on boring the players away
i would like to se one set with stats, one with +damage and one with more crit
but i guess you cant have it all
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Fenz wrote:
Gupim wrote:
Gorlom wrote:is that for all the sets?

shaman sets seemed to have different bonuses depending on what treee they were for.
there is only one warlockset, shame really since its so different playstyles, affliction/desto focuses on killing enemies and demo focuses on boring the players away
i would like to se one set with stats, one with +damage and one with more crit
but i guess you cant have it all
Affliction is meh is PvP and PvE!
if i dont find it usefull ill respecc, i wont stay with it and gimp the raid by not being usefull just to be stubborn
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Gupim wrote:
Fenz wrote:
Gupim wrote:
Gorlom wrote:is that for all the sets?

shaman sets seemed to have different bonuses depending on what treee they were for.
there is only one warlockset, shame really since its so different playstyles, affliction/desto focuses on killing enemies and demo focuses on boring the players away
i would like to se one set with stats, one with +damage and one with more crit
but i guess you cant have it all
Affliction is meh is PvP and PvE!
if i dont find it usefull ill respecc, i wont stay with it and gimp the raid by not being usefull just to be stubborn
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had to remane to Gopim on testserver :?

anyhoo

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my first BG as affliction warlock, 43/8/0

corruption ticks at 377 8) siphon was 131 drain at 240ish with one affliction on


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Did some 3 vs 3 with Sneek and versus, best so far was 18k damage. The games are very fast and fun. I lke the new corruption gfx.
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Demonology (someones take on it):
Maximise your + Hits damage with the right talents

Not correct, but say he hits for 200, you shadowbolt for 550 (Just for testing purposes)
And that the stamina and int are BASE 100

Fel Intellect + Fel Stamina = +15% Stam and Int on Pet
New pet Stam + Int = 115

You have 200 Stam and 150 int on your gear
Pet Stam = 229
Pet Int = 200

Demonic Knowledge Now has an effect of 65 Spelldamage
With Fel Armour, Your total spelldamage from buffs is 195
+5% From Master Demonologist
+5% from Demonic Tactics
+3% From Soul Link
+300 Spelldamage gear
Your shadowbolts hit for around 1100 Damage

The spelldamage then goes over to your pet increasing his damage
+282 AP From your Spelldamage
+20% Damage from Unholy Power
+5% from MD
+5% From Demonic Tactics
+3% From Soul Link

That AP grinds down to 20 DPS
The pet attacks once every 3 seconds from videos i've seen so
200/3 = 66 DPS + 20 = 86 DPS
86x3 = 258
The Felguard will hit for around 330

So, with all of that "Imba-ness" in Demonology
You Shadowbolt for 1100
Your pet hits for 330
Without External buffs

If we were do base it on DOT's however, over a minute, COA, Corr and Immo would hit for (level 70 skillz)
CoA x2 = 1356x2 = 2712
in 1 COA we get 8 ticks, thats 160% Spelldamage
2x COA = 5088

Corr x3 = 2700 Damage
in 1 Corr we get 6 Ticks, thats 120% Spelldamage
3x Corr = 4482

Immolate x4 = 2460 DOT
in 1 Immolate we get 5 ticks, thats 100% Spelldamage
4x Immo = 4440
Plus the instant damage of Immo = 320
Added spelldamage = 600
Times 4 = 2400

Thats 16410 Damage over a minute from the three DOT's

Compared to shadowbolt nuking over a minute

1100x20 = 22000

Then you can cast shadowbolts inbetween keeping up DOT's, The clobal cooldown + casting time for those DOT's mentioned over a minute is 14 seconds, leaving 46 seconds to nuke, containing 15 bolts
15x1100 = 16500

And your pets attacks over a minute
Pet hits 20 Times in a minute for 330
Over the first ten attacks his damage is increased to 50%
Attack 1 = 330, 2=345, 3=365, 380, 395, 410, 430, 445, 480, 495
His base damage (no skills) over a minute is 9025
Then his skill cleave does Normal attack damage +78 every 6 seconds, This includes Demonic Frenzy
408, 448, 489, 530, 612
His Cleave damage over a minute is 5547

Making his total Damage over a minute roughly 14570

So, The Single-target Demonology warlock will have
16410 Damage from Dot's
14570 Damage from Felguard (Assuming they dont call for the imp
16500 Damage from Nuking

Total damage over a minute = 47480
DPS average = 791

This is all without popping trinkets, and not including armour or Resist values, any errors please notify me and i will try to correct it

This is done using level 70 spells as a guide
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