WARLOCKS

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » 15 Apr 2009, 07:14

Today is the day destruction will be a viable arena spec.
God bless this day

http://www.arenajunkies.com/showthread.php?t=77185

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » 15 Apr 2009, 08:57

shards never need to be farmed again

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » 15 Apr 2009, 12:10

for self

destro http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#IZbG0Ikh ... AoVcot:zqp

demo http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#IZbGchkAbihsgzAoVf0V:NoT

Post by **Fenz** » 15 Apr 2009, 12:36

Incinerate with demo is a loss of DPS without Emberstorm in PvE.

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » 15 Apr 2009, 12:39

Fenz wrote:Incinerate with demo is a loss of DPS without Emberstorm in PvE.

ah yeah, hm gonna make a shadowone instead

Post by **Fenz** » 15 Apr 2009, 22:10

That was fast:

We are hotfixing Conflagrate to do 70% of Immolate's total periodic damage instantly (down from 100%). The tooltip may still say 100%, so we didn't want this to feel like a stealth nerf.

Since there are so many threads on the topic, it was hard to pick a single one to post this in.

We want for warlocks to have some burst potential, but we feel like it is too high. We don't want the lock playstyle to be the "run around and drop people with huge nukes" gimmick that we have already tried to tone down in say Arcane mages. We don't want to push all warlocks, even in PvP, towards Destruction just to get these big hits or crits. Even if you are "only" getting 5K crits off of an instant spell, it will still be a great button to push.

Post by **Fenz** » 16 Apr 2009, 09:52

GC about the conflag nerf:

I'm not sure if you actually meant "big concise" or not, but concise posts are nice. People are more likely to read them. Mine aren't always as concise as I wish, but it can drive players nuts when they're not sure what we're really trying to say, which tends to lead to more words. So I apologize for not always practicing what we preach there.

We need to see what effect this change (Conflag nerf) really has on PvE. I know players are posting simulation numbers, and those are helpful, but we also need to see what it really means for a raid. You've seen some of the boss encounters now so you know it varies a lot from tons of adds to lots of running around. Different strategies are going to work better for different fights and therefore different specs are going to work better for different fights. We don't want every lock to go Affliction, but we don't want every lock to go Destro either (or hybrid for that matter).

Fire and Brimstone is something we're looking at, as is Molten Core. We don't want to necessarily kill the hybrid spec dead, but if there is going to be a "mandatory" spec, we'd rather it be one that didn't just cherry pick all the best talents from multiple trees. Molten Core is there to make Demo's rotation a little bit more interesting than send in the pet + Shadowbolt. So far it seems like a lot of them may just be using Shadowbolt anyway to benefit from the debuff.

We're also not sure the Conflag glyph has ended up all that great in practice. It's interesting perhaps, but it also works at odds with some of what the talent tree is trying to get you to do.

Hope that explains a little bit about where we're trying to go with the PvE design.

source: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa ... 2580&sid=1

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » 16 Apr 2009, 10:25

well i did expect a hotfix on this, i critted a warrior last night for 13k
THIRTEEN Kay!

Thats to much, 10k is enough

I think destro still will be viable, and i doubt they nerf it to uselessness

xen · Post by **xen** » 16 Apr 2009, 11:22

Sometimes I wonder if they even use the PTR at Blizzard..

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » 16 Apr 2009, 11:23

xen wrote:Sometimes I wonder if they even use the PTR at Blizzard..

Its kinda sick yes, this nerf was obvious for everyone, but not for them.
How the hell can they miss a thing like this..

Post by **sneek** » 16 Apr 2009, 16:18

It's sad yes.

Usually napkin math is pretty easy to do and shows it very well.
Especially since they're referring to Arcane Mages it's pretty painful letting a thing like that go live.

But Blizzard's got a proud tradition -when it comes to WoW at least- of pulling down their own pants.
Grats guys!

Post by **Fenz** » 20 Apr 2009, 10:04

Hams blog:

http://www.ensidia.com/community/blogs/27.html

and spec

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talen ... gn=Ensidia

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » 20 Apr 2009, 10:09

Fenz wrote:Hams blog:

http://www.ensidia.com/community/blogs/27.html

and spec

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talen ... gn=Ensidia

Picked something similar as my pve build. Will need some tweaking tho

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » 20 Apr 2009, 10:24

Think ill go this spec (will change meta glyph for Lifetap one)

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#IzZbhchk ... oE00qM:oqN

Post by **Fenz** » 20 Apr 2009, 10:43

I read a bit more and it seems Ensidia often plays with 2 demo locks, so 1 can skip the 30% crit talent it seems. Not sure if that is good to skip if you are the only demo lock.