did i beat the master?

Gupim · Post by **Gupim** » 04 May 2006, 01:17

but did you take aggro from both giants in any pull?

slacker

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » 04 May 2006, 05:03

Yeah destrulocks > MUCHO DMG!!!

Zilver · Post by **Zilver** » 04 May 2006, 07:28

haha, if we would let our tanks tank in dps gear and duelwield/2h i'd give you a run for your money. Now i had to take tranq totem the whole time and not use any cd's. I did that once and i pulled agro faster than i can undress myself when my gf wants some nasty sex

Meek · Post by **Meek** » 04 May 2006, 09:09

gupim;
no i didnt, i have to study you more, you are a mystery

zilver;
just let me enyoy the caramel a bit more

Erebus · Post by **Erebus** » 04 May 2006, 09:28

HM HM power infusion HM HM

Nezguhl · Post by **Nezguhl** » 04 May 2006, 10:04

Still remember when i was ruin specced and manged to take aggro in every single pull up til Gaar shaati was pissed off like a lax

Since then i learned my lesson and dont overnuke anymore

edited my post to not upset any tanks that cant hold aggro from imba nf/sm/ruin critts

Meek · Post by **Meek** » 04 May 2006, 10:20

u slacked on the power infusion!!!

i tried not to steal aggro and i think i managed good, didnt get comments like that nez

except for the the "FFS!!! one is not banished!!!!"

im like:

just stunned to bits here

Morlog · Post by **Morlog** » 04 May 2006, 10:45

Nezguhl wrote:Still remember when i was ruin specced and manged to take aggro in every single pull up til Gaar shaati was pissed off like a lax

Since then i learned my lesson and dont overnuke anymore

edited my post to not upset any tanks that cant hold aggro from imba nf/sm/ruin critts

well overnuking isnt a sign of skill its a sign youre sloppy/unskilled. of course you can overnuke if you try

so im sure shati was pissed i know i am when people are doing quite the opposite of what they should. would you like it if didnt bother to keep aggro on bosses? if im tanking in mc and you overnuke i wont taunt him back to me until youre dead since youll never learn otherwise

tough love for unskilled locks ftw

the overnuking makes an instance that by now should be fast and smooth stressfull and annoying and question why the hell i should bother comming and chasing mobs all over the place since the rest of you wont bother to manage your aggro. its just disrespectfull Nez and not a sign your imba its a sign you belong in the rookie raids and ubrs pugs

Nezguhl · Post by **Nezguhl** » 04 May 2006, 10:50

Morlog wrote:
Nezguhl wrote:Still remember when i was ruin specced and manged to take aggro in every single pull up til Gaar shaati was pissed off like a lax

Since then i learned my lesson and dont overnuke anymore

edited my post to not upset any tanks that cant hold aggro from imba nf/sm/ruin critts
well overnuking isnt a sign of skill its a sign youre sloppy/unskilled. of course you can overnuke if you try

so im sure shati was pissed i know i am when people are doing quite the opposite of what they should. would you like it if didnt bother to keep aggro on bosses? if im tanking in mc and you overnuke i wont taunt him back to me until youre dead since youll never learn otherwise tough love for unskilled locks ftw

the overnuking makes an instance that by now should be fast and smooth stressfull and annoying and question why the hell i should bother comming and chasing mobs all over the place since the rest of you wont bother to manage your aggro. its just disrespectfull Nez and not a sign your imba its a sign you belong in the rookie raids and ubrs pugs

"Since then i learned my lesson and dont overnuke anymore

"

Hmm I think you missed a line there

Morlog · Post by **Morlog** » 04 May 2006, 11:24

didnt miss it but the line after that suggested that you still thought that overnuking = imbaness and skill

Zilver · Post by **Zilver** » 04 May 2006, 11:25

Morlog wrote:
Nezguhl wrote:Still remember when i was ruin specced and manged to take aggro in every single pull up til Gaar shaati was pissed off like a lax

Since then i learned my lesson and dont overnuke anymore

edited my post to not upset any tanks that cant hold aggro from imba nf/sm/ruin critts
well overnuking isnt a sign of skill its a sign youre sloppy/unskilled. of course you can overnuke if you try

so im sure shati was pissed i know i am when people are doing quite the opposite of what they should. would you like it if didnt bother to keep aggro on bosses? if im tanking in mc and you overnuke i wont taunt him back to me until youre dead since youll never learn otherwise tough love for unskilled locks ftw

the overnuking makes an instance that by now should be fast and smooth stressfull and annoying and question why the hell i should bother comming and chasing mobs all over the place since the rest of you wont bother to manage your aggro. its just disrespectfull Nez and not a sign your imba its a sign you belong in the rookie raids and ubrs pugs

I feel your frustration Morlog, i think most of the vet tanks know what you're talking about. I know for a fact that towards the end of us tanking in MC we didnt taunt a mob back that agro'd a mage or warlock that overagro'd. Was indeed the only way people would learn how to manage their agro.

Since im more dps than tank these days and have no way of reducing my agro on mobs, its a whole new learning step to output as much dmg without drawing agro. And off course it differs per tank. Those new to the instances are in my eyes therefor excused from pulling agro sometimes, vets however..

Post by **sneek** » 04 May 2006, 11:28

Well technically, when YOU pull aggro, Zilver, you're the new tank for that mob.
Healers should know by know what assist is, or have an autoassist cast for their heals

Zilver · Post by **Zilver** » 04 May 2006, 11:41

sneek wrote:Well technically, when YOU pull aggro, Zilver, you're the new tank for that mob.
Healers should know by know what assist is, or have an autoassist cast for their heals

yup very true, good thing i wear plate then and can switch in a heartbeat to the good old board and sword

xen · Post by **xen** » 04 May 2006, 11:52

Zilver wrote:Since im more dps than tank these days and have no way of reducing my agro on mobs, its a whole new learning step to output as much dmg without drawing agro. And off course it differs per tank. Those new to the instances are in my eyes therefor excused from pulling agro sometimes, vets however..

Pff, you have it easy. Zerker & Battle stance are inherently lower aggro, 80% of normal from the top of my head.
Oh, and I've said time and time again that people should push for Black Amnesty.