WARLOCKS

Post by **Fenz** » 01 Oct 2009, 11:03

DvG wrote:Fenz, the mages really saw their dps increased with you new demo spec. Don't know about other casters but for us it was really nice

I will probably keep using it in 25m raids but not in 10m raids

Post by **Fenz** » 01 Oct 2009, 11:04

Altarion wrote:guys, i have started too play lock (lvl57) and i gotta say i just love it, destro atm and alot of pvp but i seem too let ppl get in too close too me and my "rotation" is imo-cof-fear-sb-sf (if poss) rinse and repeat, if i meet a rouge trinket and sf then get away. could you give me some tips since im a dead noob often and btw... shit destro rocks hard

Late is the pvp'er atm, tell him, tell him everything!!

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » 01 Oct 2009, 11:49

Altarion wrote:guys, i have started too play lock (lvl57) and i gotta say i just love it, destro atm and alot of pvp but i seem too let ppl get in too close too me and my "rotation" is imo-cof-fear-sb-sf (if poss) rinse and repeat, if i meet a rouge trinket and sf then get away. could you give me some tips since im a dead noob often and btw... shit destro rocks hard

words like rotation shouldnt exist in pvp ^^ it all depends on the moment, id say fear after shadowfury 99% of the time. usually i do like this vs rogue for example

cheap shot (let him have it)
kidney shot (trinket)
shadowfury > fear.. now he will probably use clos (if he does its hard to win without succubus)
if he doesnt just immo / chaos bolt / conflag and maybe a shadowburn or whateva

usually does it for me

Altarion · Post by **Altarion** » 01 Oct 2009, 12:05

Lateralus wrote:
Altarion wrote:guys, i have started too play lock (lvl57) and i gotta say i just love it, destro atm and alot of pvp but i seem too let ppl get in too close too me and my "rotation" is imo-cof-fear-sb-sf (if poss) rinse and repeat, if i meet a rouge trinket and sf then get away. could you give me some tips since im a dead noob often and btw... shit destro rocks hard
words like rotation shouldnt exist in pvp ^^ it all depends on the moment, id say fear after shadowfury 99% of the time. usually i do like this vs rogue for example

cheap shot (let him have it)
kidney shot (trinket)
shadowfury > fear.. now he will probably use clos (if he does its hard to win without succubus)
if he doesnt just immo / chaos bolt / conflag and maybe a shadowburn or whateva

usually does it for me

too much pve that rotation

well i play mostly with suc because of the cc i can manage if i meet 2 really flussy players, but the pet is so situational, is there anyway too get low cast time on the pet? do you use incinerate often? i gotta say at this lvl the rouges and dks are really hard too match even if they are 2-3 lvls bellow me. im not really used too being so damn squishy

well then i have a little more koll pÃƒÂ¥ lÃƒÂ¤get, ty Late

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » 01 Oct 2009, 12:56

Altarion wrote:
Lateralus wrote:
Altarion wrote:guys, i have started too play lock (lvl57) and i gotta say i just love it, destro atm and alot of pvp but i seem too let ppl get in too close too me and my "rotation" is imo-cof-fear-sb-sf (if poss) rinse and repeat, if i meet a rouge trinket and sf then get away. could you give me some tips since im a dead noob often and btw... shit destro rocks hard
words like rotation shouldnt exist in pvp ^^ it all depends on the moment, id say fear after shadowfury 99% of the time. usually i do like this vs rogue for example

cheap shot (let him have it)
kidney shot (trinket)
shadowfury > fear.. now he will probably use clos (if he does its hard to win without succubus)
if he doesnt just immo / chaos bolt / conflag and maybe a shadowburn or whateva

usually does it for me
too much pve that rotation well i play mostly with suc because of the cc i can manage if i meet 2 really flussy players, but the pet is so situational, is there anyway too get low cast time on the pet? do you use incinerate often? i gotta say at this lvl the rouges and dks are really hard too match even if they are 2-3 lvls bellow me. im not really used too being so damn squishy well then i have a little more koll pÃƒÂ¥ lÃƒÂ¤get, ty Late

Check my destro spec and read up on my talents in Demonology and youll see what minimizes cast time on pets.

Alltho due to shardcost i almost never change pets, only in arena (from felhunter to voidwalker if getting trained by cleave)

And yes, rogues are hard. Dks, not as much ^^

Altarion · Post by **Altarion** » 01 Oct 2009, 13:27

Lateralus wrote:
Altarion wrote:
Lateralus wrote:
Altarion wrote:guys, i have started too play lock (lvl57) and i gotta say i just love it, destro atm and alot of pvp but i seem too let ppl get in too close too me and my "rotation" is imo-cof-fear-sb-sf (if poss) rinse and repeat, if i meet a rouge trinket and sf then get away. could you give me some tips since im a dead noob often and btw... shit destro rocks hard
words like rotation shouldnt exist in pvp ^^ it all depends on the moment, id say fear after shadowfury 99% of the time. usually i do like this vs rogue for example

cheap shot (let him have it)
kidney shot (trinket)
shadowfury > fear.. now he will probably use clos (if he does its hard to win without succubus)
if he doesnt just immo / chaos bolt / conflag and maybe a shadowburn or whateva

usually does it for me
too much pve that rotation well i play mostly with suc because of the cc i can manage if i meet 2 really flussy players, but the pet is so situational, is there anyway too get low cast time on the pet? do you use incinerate often? i gotta say at this lvl the rouges and dks are really hard too match even if they are 2-3 lvls bellow me. im not really used too being so damn squishy well then i have a little more koll pÃƒÂ¥ lÃƒÂ¤get, ty Late
Check my destro spec and read up on my talents in Demonology and youll see what minimizes cast time on pets.

Alltho due to shardcost i almost never change pets, only in arena (from felhunter to voidwalker if getting trained by cleave)

And yes, rogues are hard. Dks, not as much ^^

thats because you are pro and im noob^^ dks at this lvl are insane... if i get all my crap in and not resist i might have a small chance too get 1 down. ty for info, im gonna read up abit and then be master of SF

Tbone · Post by **Tbone** » 01 Oct 2009, 14:00

Altarion wrote:guys, i have started too play lock (lvl57) and i gotta say i just love it, destro atm and alot of pvp but i seem too let ppl get in too close too me and my "rotation" is imo-cof-fear-sb-sf (if poss) rinse and repeat, if i meet a rouge trinket and sf then get away. could you give me some tips since im a dead noob often and btw... shit destro rocks hard

I'd say a easy way to handle just rogues is to spec demo!!

Inncubus · Post by **Inncubus** » 07 Oct 2009, 08:10

Check and this for PVE
http://www.wow.com/2009/10/05/blood-pac ... emonology/

Post by **Fenz** » 08 Oct 2009, 06:42

Warlock
Demonology

•Demonic Pact now also Increases your spell damage by 1/2/3/4/5%.
•Decimation now procs from Soul Fire as well.

/dance

Tbone · Post by **Tbone** » 08 Oct 2009, 17:57

Fenz wrote:
Warlock
Demonology

•Demonic Pact now also Increases your spell damage by 1/2/3/4/5%.
•Decimation now procs from Soul Fire as well.

/dance

this is great!! when does this change be?

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » 09 Oct 2009, 09:42

nice for pve :p

Post by **Fenz** » 09 Oct 2009, 20:22

Check the new demo numbers (theory crafted but still, they are never far off with their calculations):

http://elitistjerks.com/f80/t48311-simu ... 3_numbers/

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » 17 Oct 2009, 13:10

as demo.. after sp.. u stack haste or crit?

answer!

Soulintruder · Post by **Soulintruder** » 17 Oct 2009, 15:13

Haste ofc, since you get 10% crit from tallents?
Also sb has 2,5'' cast and not 2,25'' like inc you basicly need it

Post by **Fenz** » 21 Dec 2009, 18:02

Good guide for the lock (alts):

http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.htm ... 9264&sid=1