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Post by sneek »

Ming's journal is a very interesting read on the expansion.
And it's interesting to note his attack power.

Quite... low? 1200.
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hahaHAHAHAAAAA! :twisted:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa ... 7298&sid=1 Most important stuff: Imp. Backstab is now switched with Imp SnD! Wound Poison now gives -10% for each layer, stacks up to 5 times. It's fookin uber!
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Mmhh, anyone has a working link to EnergyWatch? Only addon im missing..
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So what Spec did you guys take?:)
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First I tried 10/41/0 But Combat Potiency proc is more like 5%, not 20%...
So I switched back to old 18/33/0, just replaced Weapon Expertise with Vitality.
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+hit and weaponskill clarification: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa ... 6450&sid=1
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Renataki gets nerfed in BC, -2energy per level. http://www.hitpoints.org/wow_BC_Beta/Sc ... ickery.jpg GG :S
Hope there will be a new +60energy trinket..
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zNow wrote:Venomous totem change in BC: http://www.hitpoints.org/wow_BC_Beta/Sc ... _Totem.gif
Still the same ultimate dust gatherer of my bank...
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It's a 33% improvement of your Instant Poison proc damage, though.
That's for the L70 top end poison.

20% chance for a 146-194 nature nuke per attack.
Totem adds a flat 65 nature damage on top of the nuke's damage range.

On average that poison nukes for 34 per attack, with assuming 2.0 weapon speed you're looking at a +17 dps effect per weapon; with misses, immunities and resists ignored.
The trinket adds an average of 13 nature damage per attack, or with the 2.0 speed, +6.5 dps per weapon when using Instant Poison.

Assume the trinket and the poison active on two 2.0 speeders and you're looking at +23.5x2 = +47 dps.

Though comparison with attack power is flakey, if you'd pretend your target has 0 armor and resists or immunities you're looking at an equivalent of +91 attack power on the poison trinket if you were only wielding one weapon and thinking autoattack.

So, what IS a good poison to use in raiding instances?
None as in Windfury or Sharpening Stones?

Looks like a good candidate on your offhand though.
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Lets take TBC's Instant Poison VII and 2, lets say, swords - 2.6 mainhand and 1.60 offhand. Applying poison on both hands.
With Slice&Dice up, this pair of weapons will hit target ~29 times (11 MH and 18 OF) for 20 second. Offhand proc rate 50% less than mainhand which give us 10%. So for 20 second of trinket duration poisons will land ~4 times, which gives 260 more average damage.
Also lets not forget, that posions can be partially or fully resisted.
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Let's say you use a trinket with +AP or something (earthstrike for example) you have to keep in mind that attacks while using such a trinket can also be missed/blocked/dodge'ed/parried. So when calculating the effectiveness of the BWL trinket you should compare it to other trinkets you have when taking a theory in mind that is basd on all attacks/spells landing, to make it a fair comparision imo.
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Envenom. Dunno if that thing can crit...
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