SHAMAN HEAVEN

Toenibbler · Post by **Toenibbler** » 10 Nov 2006, 00:40

oh well i guess the pallies will take over the healing roll more or less and seeing me being 11th on the AQT raid in dps untill fankriss i think shamans CAN be a good dps class

well the builds give me either 100 more spell damage or 30 mana/5 in elemental gear..i guess i wil go for the regen with NS..seems like the most dmg based build..but i really like the 5% more mana talents in enhancement..they should move that talent to resto or elelemental..melee shamans dont need mana, except for a few heals or so and lightning shield.

i guess i will go for
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/under ... 5010000000
seems like the best option mana/dmg wise

Toenibbler · Post by **Toenibbler** » 10 Nov 2006, 00:42

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/under ... 0000000000

check this build out veroth i think you would love it...

Gupim · Post by **Gupim** » 10 Nov 2006, 00:59

the only thing that stops shammys from beeing great caster-dps is mana efficiency/regeneration
think shammys can burst alot better than me but dont have the lasting power to continue to do so under a longer time

thats at least from what ive seen during ZGraids where shammys almost can outdps me on singletarget trash where the mobs goes down fast and dont have much hp

not sure if this is fixed in BC?

Mandra · Post by **Mandra** » 10 Nov 2006, 14:01

I'm going to use this build in BC at lvl 70 (gogo elemental shaman dps!).

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/under ... 5000000000

during lvling probably going to use EM and NS at lvl 61.
Just hope that lightning overload and totem of wrath will get better:]

psythe · Post by **psythe** » 10 Nov 2006, 15:53

My build in TBC
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent-bc=GE0zE0MqVoxZV0xx0xo

Post by **sneek** » 10 Nov 2006, 16:40

Staying power, afaik, i still a joke in BC for elemental shaman.
Enhancement on the other hand has with the current build of BC all the possibilities of being right up there -- given identical itemization to Warriors+Rogues.

Unfortunately the "enhancement tier 4 set" is anything but identical to the warrior dps set.

Jhorar · Post by **Jhorar** » 10 Nov 2006, 17:24

sneek wrote:Unfortunately the "enhancement tier 4 set" is anything but identical to the warrior dps set.

Pretty much the same for druids. I really hope that Blizzard comes through for hybrids. They've been doing a decent job with talents (feral, enhancement) they just have to step it up when it comes to late game itemization imo.

Gorlom · Post by **Gorlom** » 10 Nov 2006, 17:36

shields still dont give any real + dmg in TBC right?

im kinda thinking about this build: might change one point from elemental lightning mastery to enchantment for stormstrike

anticipation is also possibly going to be replaced by the totem talents.

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/under ... 0000000000

Post by **sneek** » 10 Nov 2006, 18:43

There is an epic L70 spellshield out there that does +dmg/heal and critical.
It requires you to farm your tail off running Heroic-mode 5-mans though.

Mandra · Post by **Mandra** » 10 Nov 2006, 23:16

sneek wrote:There is an epic L70 spellshield out there that does +dmg/heal and critical.
It requires you to farm your tail off running Heroic-mode 5-mans though.

I know what I will do at lvl 70 now atleast

Gorlom · Post by **Gorlom** » 10 Nov 2006, 23:45

is it equal to the weapons out there sneek?

Post by **sneek** » 11 Nov 2006, 11:35

Caster Shield: http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=3273
3.5k armor, 15 int, 15 sta, 22 dmg/heal and 19 crit rating.
It's quite acceptable.

As for the aggro mechanism, they have changed.
Christ be more creative then that, Blizzard, shees. Just because every dps horny twit is pressing earth shock whenever it's up doesn't mean you should accomodate that blindly

Earth Shock: http://www.thottbot.com/beta?sp=25454
Frost Shock: http://www.thottbot.com/beta?sp=25464 (yeah ok, I guess PvP enemies bitch and curse at every FS they receive)
Rockbiter: http://www.thottbot.com/beta?sp=25485 (you can delete this skill now)

My aim for a DW build at L70
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/under ... 0000000000
It features Enhancing Totems 2/2 and Nature's Guidance 3/3, Healing Focus 5/5 and Totemic Mastery.
If you want to be better at support, remove Totemic Mastery and shunt some points from Improved Lightning shield to the two melee dps totem talents.

A Resto build at L70 I am considering
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/under ... 5313515321
Basically bland 11 points in enhancement for the 2H with Improved Ghost Wolf at 2/2 since I'm a sucker for mobility.
As much of the talents in Resto that'll allow you to tankheal

An Elemental (PvP) build at L70 I am considering
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/under ... 5013000000
Your regular garden variety Elemental build from L60 featuring only EM next to NS as well as two passive talents that mitigate "the pain" in PvP.
It shows how lackluster I feel the two new tiers in Elemental are - it's not like there's a Dragon's Breath in there or something

I'm thinking though that Enhancement solo is not viable untill you've hit L65 because that you need Shamanistic Rage -and- you need Healing Focus 5/5 to stand a chance.

Morlog · Post by **Morlog** » 11 Nov 2006, 14:29

any explaination to why they found that stupid shamans should be allowed to live ? that was how you weeded em out the fuckers that spammed ES and died in droves. so how was this a change`? darwinism was working alright with ES high threat imo.

and raising the dps on your weapon by 62 for rockbiter? how? by adding dmg or speeding it up? guessing itll add dmg

Toenibbler · Post by **Toenibbler** » 11 Nov 2006, 14:34

Morlog wrote:and raising the dps on your weapon by 62 for rockbiter? how? by adding dmg or speeding it up? guessing itll add dmg

yeah like sneek said...remove it from your hotbars

Gorlom · Post by **Gorlom** » 11 Nov 2006, 17:31

WTB http://www.thottbot.com/beta?sp=10807 (ghostwolf form only?)