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Haha yes it sure as hell works for me. A friend at work is quitting tomorrow and he sent out a mail asking what people want to eat his last day.. i offcourse proposed a kebab paj with many diffrent sauces.Maugetar wrote:hahah.. richard.. u and me buddy.. hahaha.. the best way to tell whos lying.. place a Varbergs special in front of his face.. If he tells u that he hates it, he´s lying.. Usually its the froth around his mouth that gives it away..
Why cant anyone take me seriously:(
Gordon, I am thinking of respeccing (once again) heavy into destruction. Emberstorm affects the SB too right?
This in anticipation of 1.8
Xen, try to sell me an Affliction spec again. Kiting might work very good after 1.8 with faster dots
but I find that I always open with immolate, a few dots and then SB (deathcoil when someone is on me in 1.8 instead op SP )
This in anticipation of 1.8
Xen, try to sell me an Affliction spec again. Kiting might work very good after 1.8 with faster dots
but I find that I always open with immolate, a few dots and then SB (deathcoil when someone is on me in 1.8 instead op SP )I ain't leaving without your soul and I am sober this time.
GOOD CHOISE!! Emberstorm is only for Fire spells so i guess not.Fenz wrote:Gordon, I am thinking of respeccing (once again) heavy into destruction. Emberstorm affects the SB too right?
This in anticipation of 1.8
Xen, try to sell me an Affliction spec again. Kiting might work very good after 1.8 with faster dots
the build owns like hell and i think that i will never change to something else again
pretty boring that i lack lots of +fire stuff though.. thats why i wanna level in pvp so i can get hold of some things that way :p
:D Conflagrate owns ass i tell you!! Ass!!
Ok, Fenz, here goes:
- CoEx: I-Win vs noob rogues that dont use Crippling (or have bad luck hehe), and v useful to stop runners. Impr CoEx for me slows to 55%, which means you can keep up with an epic mount. Combined with our 30y, instacast, 3s, non-diminishing returns, only 2m timer fear this means even more easy mount kills.
- Siphon Life: 67 hp / 3s for an instacast spell, not too shabby. Also, it has unlimited range, so if you need health, just spam it on your random passing alien.
- Corruption/Drain Life: ticks for 110+ per tick + Nightfall I-Win.
- uber synergy with ToEP, since you first apply DoTs, then activate it for maximum effect.
- Drain Life is also uber vs rogues, since you auto-face them, so no more Backstabs. If they kick/(or Sneek ES's)/pummel etc feel free to cast Fear, then Immo, SP. Warriors kinda suck, but with DL you stand a chance to survive the 10s Berserker Rage lasts. Ofc, if they have Deathwish you're probably dead anyway.
- With CoA, Corr, Siphon, Immo + Drain Life I usually already have the advantage. Add in an opportune Fear, Shadowburn (~800 dmg), or a NF proc (~1000 dmg) and it's GG.
- Of course, you're free to start off with the usual Seduce/Nuke spam, but I prefer my little machine gun for Blood Pact, burst dmg and mana regen (only applicable if you go DP tho).
So, in total (~300 +dmg):
- CoA: might be 30ish DPS
- Corr: 35ish DPS
- Siphon: 20ish DPS (+heal)
- Imp: 60ish DPS (until OOM, I think he can do about 2000dmg total or so)
- Immo: 35ish DPS
- DL: 110ish DPS (+heal)
All the DoTs combined are already pretty respectable DPS, and you still have the option of bursting with ShadowBurn, or better NF proc + Shadowburn. I really can't wait until the day they remove the shardcost from Shadowburn, that will be insane...
On Fenz' FTP there is a vid of me dueling Sneek, from Sneek's perspective. You can see SCT going crazy with tics from all the DoTs (not really representative tho, since I actually win there).
- CoEx: I-Win vs noob rogues that dont use Crippling (or have bad luck hehe), and v useful to stop runners. Impr CoEx for me slows to 55%, which means you can keep up with an epic mount. Combined with our 30y, instacast, 3s, non-diminishing returns, only 2m timer fear this means even more easy mount kills.
- Siphon Life: 67 hp / 3s for an instacast spell, not too shabby. Also, it has unlimited range, so if you need health, just spam it on your random passing alien.
- Corruption/Drain Life: ticks for 110+ per tick + Nightfall I-Win.
- uber synergy with ToEP, since you first apply DoTs, then activate it for maximum effect.
- Drain Life is also uber vs rogues, since you auto-face them, so no more Backstabs. If they kick/(or Sneek ES's)/pummel etc feel free to cast Fear, then Immo, SP.
Warriors kinda suck, but with DL you stand a chance to survive the 10s Berserker Rage lasts. Ofc, if they have Deathwish you're probably dead anyway. - With CoA, Corr, Siphon, Immo + Drain Life I usually already have the advantage. Add in an opportune Fear, Shadowburn (~800 dmg), or a NF proc (~1000 dmg) and it's GG.
- Of course, you're free to start off with the usual Seduce/Nuke spam, but I prefer my little machine gun for Blood Pact, burst dmg and mana regen (only applicable if you go DP tho).
So, in total (~300 +dmg):
- CoA: might be 30ish DPS
- Corr: 35ish DPS
- Siphon: 20ish DPS (+heal)
- Imp: 60ish DPS (until OOM, I think he can do about 2000dmg total or so)
- Immo: 35ish DPS
- DL: 110ish DPS (+heal)
All the DoTs combined are already pretty respectable DPS, and you still have the option of bursting with ShadowBurn, or better NF proc + Shadowburn. I really can't wait until the day they remove the shardcost from Shadowburn, that will be insane...
On Fenz' FTP there is a vid of me dueling Sneek, from Sneek's perspective. You can see SCT going crazy with tics from all the DoTs (not really representative tho, since I actually win there
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I seduce-nuke with good success in the BG's. My concern is that in the bg's and most other PvP encounters you have to kill your opponents as quick as possible.
Outlasting an opponent is a fun way to win tho, I will try that in some duels, alltho I hate duels (but Prinz is an easy target anyway!).
And /petition emberstorm! SB is listed as destruction damnit!
Outlasting an opponent is a fun way to win tho, I will try that in some duels, alltho I hate duels (but Prinz is an easy target anyway!).
And /petition emberstorm! SB is listed as destruction damnit!
I ain't leaving without your soul and I am sober this time.
Well, I like the fact that most of the spells I use are insta-cast. I still have the option to spam SBs if I can stand abit behind the lines, but I find that DoTs are a more surefire albeit abit slower way of killing people, even against groups of enemies. I can still apply DoTs at the same rate if some hunter keeps firing at me. I usually do CoA, corr, siphon and maybe Immo on a target and then move on to the next, using Shadowburn whenever someone is ready to be executed ofc. If someone is actively meleeing me I usually use DL, or DC/SB depending on how bad it is.
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Yeah dots are pretty good in pvp but its 2 diffrent playstyles really.. i rather hit him with all i got and get quick death instead of standing and wait.. yesterday my immolate critted on 1500 and 2 700 Searing pain and a pretty nice conflagrate and on top of that a 1s cooldown angry-as-a-motherfucker imp shoots one fireball/sec .. damn he died fast haha.. goes so daaamn fast as well.. like 7 secsxen wrote:Well, I like the fact that most of the spells I use are insta-cast. I still have the option to spam SBs if I can stand abit behind the lines, but I find that DoTs are a more surefire albeit abit slower way of killing people, even against groups of enemies. I can still apply DoTs at the same rate if some hunter keeps firing at me. I usually do CoA, corr, siphon and maybe Immo on a target and then move on to the next, using Shadowburn whenever someone is ready to be executed ofc.
Also, xen, remember that if you do any group pvp at all, and you come up against any competent priest, you are pretty much defunkt. when i see a warlock in group pvp i always have my dispel magic rank 2 button at the ready :p
i personally would go for a destruction build if i were level 60 with my lock and i wanted to focus my attention towards pvp, especially when in pvp i would have to compete with both dispel magic and cleanse
but my lock is only 34, so who am i to give my opinion? :p
i personally would go for a destruction build if i were level 60 with my lock and i wanted to focus my attention towards pvp, especially when in pvp i would have to compete with both dispel magic and cleanse
but my lock is only 34, so who am i to give my opinion? :p
well, personally i never have used and i never will use decursive in pvp, i prefer to actually use my own pvp skill to take care of the rest of my raid.
as a priest who actively dispels in pvp and very very very rarely casts any damage spells, i would tell you a few things :p any priest who decides that they want to heal only in pvp (and on the alliance side i can only think of 2 or 3), as a warlock you will have absolutely no chance whatsoever when it comes to magic DoTs. with one spell we can take away 2 of your debuffs, and that is more than worth the 1.5sec cooldown.
the only time where i would consider placing Flash Heal above Dispel Magic in pvp is if my DD was taking lots of damage very quickly. unless the mage, warrior, lock or rogue is taking lots of damage, i will dispel all harmful magic debuffs. by 'harmful' i mean i will dispel powerful DoTs like SW:P, although i will not bother if a mage or lock has the Frostbolt debuff on them because that is not so terribly harmful to them to warrant a 1.5 sec cooldown.
all i will say is that in pvp i will get rid of immolate, corruption, seduction and siphon life as soon as i see them (although tbt i dont see them that often cause there arent that many locks who do a lot of pvp :p) i will also get rid of soul link if i see it being cast (can only think of one alliance lock who uses it often, tho)
basically any priest or pally who focuses on healing in pvp will have no problem whatsoever with the 1.5 sec cooldown. i can see that conflagrate would be very nice to a player such as myself, because you could cast immolate and then quickly conflagrate before i can dispel
as a priest who actively dispels in pvp and very very very rarely casts any damage spells, i would tell you a few things :p any priest who decides that they want to heal only in pvp (and on the alliance side i can only think of 2 or 3), as a warlock you will have absolutely no chance whatsoever when it comes to magic DoTs. with one spell we can take away 2 of your debuffs, and that is more than worth the 1.5sec cooldown.
the only time where i would consider placing Flash Heal above Dispel Magic in pvp is if my DD was taking lots of damage very quickly. unless the mage, warrior, lock or rogue is taking lots of damage, i will dispel all harmful magic debuffs. by 'harmful' i mean i will dispel powerful DoTs like SW:P, although i will not bother if a mage or lock has the Frostbolt debuff on them because that is not so terribly harmful to them to warrant a 1.5 sec cooldown.
all i will say is that in pvp i will get rid of immolate, corruption, seduction and siphon life as soon as i see them (although tbt i dont see them that often cause there arent that many locks who do a lot of pvp :p) i will also get rid of soul link if i see it being cast (can only think of one alliance lock who uses it often, tho)
basically any priest or pally who focuses on healing in pvp will have no problem whatsoever with the 1.5 sec cooldown. i can see that conflagrate would be very nice to a player such as myself, because you could cast immolate and then quickly conflagrate before i can dispel
Well Late, I completely agree with you. But a couple of things: one, not many priests are that dedicated, even with the groups that I faced in Walach's team (many prefer to nuke, silly them). Two, I don't always face the group with the priest with them. And third, priests are usually taken care of first.
But I know a competent priest/paladin will nullify my DoTs, so usually I check it out abit, and if he does dispel, I'll just switch to DD myself (Immo/SB/SP) for the time being.
But I know a competent priest/paladin will nullify my DoTs, so usually I check it out abit, and if he does dispel, I'll just switch to DD myself (Immo/SB/SP) for the time being.
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