WOTLK talent trees. NDA has been lifted.

[Fenz]

http://www.mmo-champion.com/talent/

[Deadleg]

http://www.mmo-champion.com/talent/

Some nice talents there

[Meek]

cool, first thing i do is going all in, in the destro tree :p

[sneek]

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=hVuhoZG0xIoxdIekguVo
Potentially the "optimal" Enhancement raiding build?

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basic ... 0000000000
Likely the Enhancement PvP build. There are 3/3 in Convection and 3/3 in Elemental Warding - but those can be shifted around to Call of Flame and Elemental Devastation if so desired to get a more offensive build.
The new rework of Maelstrom Weapon to affect "any spell" will allow you to cast a big Healing Wave every time you have a (nearly) full stack of Maelstrom.
With midgame status of WotLK item progression you're likely looking at 30% critrate on PvP gear, so 20% critrate on a hardcore PvPer due to resilience.
With 2.6 speed weapons dual wielded you'll be looking at 2.6/2 / 0.20 * 5 = 33 seconds per Maelstrom full stack.
That is 33 seconds of constant hammering on your target (on average); it might flow a bit downwards towards 25 seconds, due to Flurry, but don't count on it.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/talent/?sha ... 0000000000
Restoration raiding build, high mana regen - depends on the actual functioning of Improved Water Shield.
As I read it, it's only your own heals tossed on yourself that crit will cause your watershield to tick.

[Phil]

Anyone who got into the beta?

[Earlybird]

"Metamorphosis" (Demonology)

"[...] While in demon form, you gain demonic abilities. [...]"

I'm not sure i understand what the hell they're on about, but demonic abilities can't be all that bad.

[Yaur]

Not yet. But when I see those shaman tree's i feel the call of nature(damage!).

Elemental looks awesome!

[Mortleg]

raid
http://www.mmo-champion.com/talent/?hun ... 0000000000

have no idea what i would want for pvp tho, but with the reduced CD of intimidate, i might go BM too...

[Jhorar]

Move over paladin, there's no way you'll outtank me in an aoe pack come 80!

http://www.mmo-champion.com/talent/?dru ... 3335311251

Edit: and the feral berserk talent is insane... last stand, tbw and cleave attack all in one package.

Edit:
http://www.mmo-champion.com/talent/?dru ... 3305011251

Raid spec, welcome Ooc

[TheWarriorKing]

Move over paladin, there's no way you'll outtank me in an aoe pack come 80!

http://www.mmo-champion.com/talent/?dru ... 3335311251

Edit: and the feral berserk talent is insane... last stand, tbw and cleave attack all in one package.

warrior gets the same thing,without the hp thing,that lasts 4.5 seconds and prevents the use of other yellows

Rejoice!

[Lateralus]

Ill probably go something like this

http://www.mmo-champion.com/talent/?war ... 0000000000

Either that or ill change Fel Concentration to insta pet.. but fel conc feels kinda needed imo with the Deaths Embrace (needed or needed but i do wanna have em both )

[Morlog]

and after the first day as affliction late what will you respec into then?

[Lateralus]

and after the first day as affliction late what will you respec into then?

another affliction spec probably

[Fenz]

I will spec the survival build for locks to buff raid spelldamage.

[DaMonte]

Im gonna try this one for 2v2
http://www.mmo-champion.com/talent/?dru ... 0030011200

or something like this if i wanna have long games...
http://www.mmo-champion.com/talent/?dru ... 0000000000